- Are Ram and Hanuman
not Gods ?
-Who says they are not Gods ?
They attained complete liberation from Mount Mangitungi and are enjoying
perfect bliss of the Siddhas. We learn from the Nirwankand that Ram, Hanu,
Sugriva, Sunil, Gava, Gavaksha, Neel, Mahaneel and ninety-nine crore monks
attained complete liberation from Maingitungi, which is a place of worship
- Have Sugriva and other
monkeys and Nal, Neel and other bears also attained supreme liberation ?
Have they also become Gods ?
- Neither were Hanuman
and Sugriva monkeys, nor Nal and Neel bears. They were very handsome and
noble personalities and attained complete detachment and omniscience in
their life by their supreme effort.
- Why are they then
called monkey etc. ?
- The clan to which they
belonged was called Banar (monkey). Likewise, Ravan was not a giant. He
belonged to the Rakshash (giant) clan and was the king of the three
regions of land.
- People say he had ten
mouths. Is it correct ?
- Is there any man having ten
mouths? His name was Dashmukh. The reason was that in his childhood he
used to wear a necklace having nine jewels. The reflection of his mouth
fell on these gems and it appeared as if he had ten mouths. It was on that
account that people began to call him Dashmukh.
- Where was Ram born ?
- Boy Ram was born from
the womb of Kaushalya, the queen of King Dashratha of Ayodhya. With the
pursuit of his soul, he became Bhagwan (God) Ram.
King Dashratha had four
queens. Out of these, Kaushalya gave birth to Ram, Sumitra to Lakshman,
Kaikeyi to Bharat and Suprabha to Shatrughna.
- So Ram had three more
brothers. And.... ?
- Ram was married to Sita,
the daughter of King Janak. Once King Dashratha thought that his son was
now able to bear the burden of the kingdom and so he wanted to hand over
the reigns of the kingdom to Ram and absorb himself in the pursuit of the
self. He also announced the date of the anointment ceremony of Ram,
- But, what ?
- Queen Kaikeyi wanted her son
Bharat to become the king. She, therefore, demanded two boons that the
King had promised her. First was that Ram should be exiled for fourteen
years and the second that Bharat should be declared king of Ayodhya.
Dashratha was grieved to hear this, but he was bound by his promise and
Ram had to go to the woods. Sita and Lakshaman accompanied him.
- Did Bharat become the
king then ?
- In fact, he did not like to become
- Ram must have faced
many difficulties in the woods ?
- Ram and Lakshaman did not
worry about the day-to-day ordinary difficulties of the life in the woods,
but they were very much disturbed when Sita was kidnapped.
- Who kidnapped Sita ?
- The King of Lanka,
Ravan kidnapped Sita. Hanuman, Sugriva and others were kings under his
sovereignty, but they abandoned their loyalty towards him, on account of
this ignoble action. His brother Vibhishan tried to persuade him to return
Sita to Ram, but he was destined to suffer and, therefore, he did not
listen to him at all. Ultimately, Vibhishan also left his court.
- What next ?
- Ram and Lakshaman
invaded Lanka. Vibhishan, Sugriva, Nal, Neel, Hanuman and other kings of
different regions sided with Ram and Lakshman, and the vicious Ravan faced
the fate, he deserved. He was killed and Ram and Lakshaman won the field.
Sita was taken back by Ram. Fourteen years came to an end and Ram and
Lakshaman came back to Ayodhya and began to rule.
- It is good the
misfortune ended. Then Sita and Ram must have led a life of pelf and
- Is there any happiness
in worldly pleasures ? They have been regarded as abodes of miseries. As
long as there are delusions, attachments and aversions in the soul, there
are miseries all around. They lived happily for some days only, after
which Ram exiled pregnant Sita on account of public slander. Vajrajangh,
the king of Pundrikpur accepted Sita as his sister and gave her shelter.
Had he not done so....
- Sita gave birth to twin
brothers Lav and Kush in Pundrikpur. Both the brothers were strong, calm
and glorious, just as Ram and Lakshaman were. They also waged a war on Ram
- Who won ?
- Both the parties
remained invincible. Before defeat or victory could be decided, both the
parties knew that it was a fight between the father and his sons.
Battlefield was, therefore, turned into a family union ground.
- Did Sita's misfortunes
come to an end then ?
Misfortunes cannot come to an end in the background of attachment and
aversion. Detachment is the only way to end misfortunes.
- What happened next ?
- Ram refused to accept
Sita without her going through the fire, as her test of purity.
- Then ?
- The great Sita entered the
fire and proved her purity. Strong burning fire turned into cold and calm
water. The heavenly beings performed this miracle to establish the dignity
of a pure life.
- Ram, then, must have
accepted Sita ?
-Yes, Ram was ready to accept
her as his queen, but she herself did not like to burn herself in the
furnace of the household, because she had realised that there was no joy
in the pleasures of senses. The path of detachment is the only way to
supreme happiness. She, therefore, engrossed herself in the pursuit of the
- And Ram….?
- After sometime Ram also realised
the transitoriness of worldly life and became a detached monk. He
destroyed attachments and aversions and became an omniscient being, having
reached the highest point of his self-pursuit.
-The story of Ram is very
interesting and educative. I have enjoyed it and learnt many new things.
Could you not explain this in more details ?
- There is no time to
describe the events in details. If you want to know more details, you
should study Padam Puran of Ravisenacharya.
- It must be in Sanskrit
- Yes, the original text
is in Sanskrit, but Pandit Daulatramji Kasliwal has translated it in Hindi
- Where shall we get it ?
In the temple. You can get Padam
Puran in every Jain temple, where people read it daily.